11-24-2016 02:18 PM
Hi all, just bought myself a Vive.
I live in a rented appartment with some flatmates, and we cannot drill the walls, and I was thinking about possible solutions to place BSs, and placing them on camera mounts with suction cups would be a good idea. Has anyone tried this before?
It would be to attach it to a regular wall, so not a flat polished surface. Don't know if there's any suction cup that is not expensive (some €30 for a couple of them) and can be attached to walls.
My idea is to be able to move it whenever I needed, so I prefer suction cups rather than double sided sticky tape (I know there are some that are really strong and would work, but I would only use this as a last resort.
11-24-2016 09:45 PM
Suction cups might work, although they'd need a lot of... suck.
You might also want to look at portable light stands. These are the ones I use - don't get confused like I did, there's two in the bag (I ordered two sets... doh).
Apart from obviously not damaging your walls, the other advantage is that you can easily move the lighthouses if you need to adjust them for any reason.
Whatever you decide, let us know the outcome - and welcome to VR, @azpiazu!
11-24-2016 10:59 PM
11-25-2016 04:15 AM
Don't forget to get 2x tripod ball head to attach to the stands: https://www.amazon.com/Pixnor-Tripod-Camera-Camcorder-Bracket/dp/B01EFI8LOO/ref=sr_1_5?s=photo&ie=UT...
Or you can just get them bundled with the light stands: https://www.amazon.com/Fovitec-StudioPRO-Compatible-Carrying-Included/dp/B01MFG14ZT/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UT...
11-25-2016 06:43 AM
Yes! Thanks @Apaulture. Totally forgot about those 'ball heads'.
I actually managed to 'duct tape' my lighthouses to the walls when I first got them as a temporary measure, but after a day one almost fell off. They're heavier than you might think!
11-25-2016 11:50 AM - edited 11-25-2016 04:30 PM
I went for suctions cups. Might try the stands if I see this is not good enough. But it was the best I could find today. For light stands I'd have to buy online, and wouldn't get them until Tuesday.
And yes, I thought abouth the "ball heads" (I didn't know the name in English, in Spanish is like "kneecap": "rótula") since the stations have to face down.
Right now I have an old camera, aprox. 2/3 the weight of the stations, attached to a suction cup, on a windows, and I'll see how long it takes to fall down (if it even does).
The other one will be on a shelf, so it's quite safe.
I'll get back with the outcome of my experiment in some hours hahaha
So here I am again... It worked perfectly. The suction cups are still attached to the window and shelf, and the one in the window even supportes a piggybak full of coins for more than 1 hour while I was setting everything up, so I can say it's pretty good. I will leave it all night (no base station attached, but some weight on it) just to test it.
11-26-2016 03:56 AM
That's awesome dude. I'm actually curious how you'd mount the lighthouse to a sunction cup and still able to keep it stable. Do you mind sharing a photo?
11-26-2016 05:02 AM
It's a "compact suction mount", according to the box. It is the type used in action cameras to stick it in windshields and so on. They already have the screw mount.
It's been there for 17 hours already, and still no signs of having been moved a milimiter. I hanged some 3 kg during all night (some 6 hours) and still there.
I really recommend it if you don't want to drill, and you have clean smooth surfaces available (windows, mirrors, varnished wood...). I might buy light mounts as some suggested since I won't be able to do this always, but at least I know this works.
11-26-2016 05:12 AM
Oh wow, I can imagine that being a very clean setup with easy cable management. I guess it works especially well for anyone requiring maximum play area.
11-26-2016 05:47 AM
Luckily, I have power sockets on each corner in the livingroom, so no cables are in the middle. Unluckily, I can't use the livingroom, since my flatmates use it, so tomorrow I'll have to move everything to my room, and there I can only play in a seated/standing setup, and no room one.
11-28-2016 03:27 PM
Excellent! Great idea @azpiazu and thanks for sharing!
I can totally see this working... just bear in mind, anyone reading, reflective surfaces can cause issues with tracking sometimes - for example windows.
11-29-2016 11:15 AM
A new update on this. After using the cups all weekend without them falling, I have moved them to another place. In this case they are attached to a wood door and window shutter. I put more than 4 Kg in coins hanging from them and they are still there.
So it's safe to say that using suction cups it's good. I don't know how long can they be used, but I think I will keep them there for a couple of weeks, and then remove, clean and attach them again. I will anyway remove the stations from them when I'm not playing for a long time (just in case...).
04-26-2017 06:11 AM
I used a product called 3M Command which 3M claim will not damage the paint.
It's a self-adhesive tape similar to velcro. The medium size can support up to 7kg I think and cost £3.99 for a pack, one pack did both sensors. They've been on the walls for almost a week and haven't budged.
I haven't tried removing them to see if they pull the paint off, in case they don't stick twice.
I still vote for the stands though as it allows me to take my vive downstairs or to a mates house.
I paid about 35 quid for a pair of stagg mic stands with a screw adapter for the basestations.